I am very happy to be here among the
bright students of the Jindal Global University and especially at the Centre
for Regulatory Governance in the Law School. My Regards particularly for the
Vice Chancellor of the University, Prof Raj Kumar have taken this initiative,
which I must say is most needed–the study of the regulators of India as its
economy speeds ahead.
A critical question I shall address
today is that of the accountability of the regulators. In my discussions with
Subhomoy (Bhattacharjee) I understand this is an area where the Centre will be
most involved.
I should begin by explaining that so far as the working of the regulatory system in the country is concerned, and here I include all of them like SEBI, RBI, IRDA, CCI and so on, all of them only have got regulation making powers. The critical test to apply is what happens when it is discovered that the regulation framed by a regulator is in conflict with the rules framed by the government or the law passed by Parliament or the provisions of the Constitution of India. We are very sure what will prevail and of course the regulations framed by the regulators shall not prevail.
But then what happens when we are coming to a situation or a stage where the regulation framed by the regulators has the force of law and that implies they also have the force of law meaning the exercise of coercive powers.
So, the question arises, what should be the accountability of the regulators. Here, I will also, just as an aside, would like to tell you that when SEBI Act was passed, in 1992, the regulation making power of SEBI was subject to concurrence and approval of the government. So, all the regulations in draft form would be sent to the Ministry of Finance and based on whether the Ministry of Finance would say yes or no, the decisions would be notified.
Subsequently, in their wisdom, the
government and Parliament have allowed that the law making power, the
regulation making powers of Sebi as exercised through the Sebi board do not
require approval from the government. The SEBI board is competent to do
it and now the same applies to all the other regulators.
So, now the question arises, how do you
enforce their accountability? There are various approaches to this question of
accountability. By the way, let me come back also to state that in
post-independence India, we have inherited a number of laws and regulations
relating to commerce, trade and the financial markets. The regulators have come
up therefore not with a clean slate but within a body of existing laws.
For instance the Companies Act was
passed in 1956. Subsequently the Security Contract Regulation Act, SCRA was
passed. The Forward Market Commission Act was passed.
The Controller of Capital Issues Act
was passed. And you will be surprised that almost all these acts happened
within a span of two years, 1956-1957. These laws brought out a very new
concept that there will be an authority sitting in the government but it will
be named differently.
For example, The Controller of Capital Issues sitting in the North Block in the Ministry of Finance used to decide which company in which season of the year could raise how much money and at what price. So if a company had to issue shares, he could not decide. It was decided by the Controller of Capital Issues.
Same was the situation with regard to the Companies Act, the Company Law Board and others. The important thing to note here is that all these authorities were part of the government. Most of the time these were designated as attached offices. So if you were a Director or a Joint Secretary in the government, you are also made Controller of Capital Issues or if you were DG Investigation (income tax) or whatever.
The appellate power against their order was also given to a senior officer in the same ministry. So if the Joint Secretary was passing an order, the Secretary or a group of additional Secretaries would review it. The real change which is relevant for all of you and for all of us is the real change that happened in post 1991 and the first act to be passed was the Securities and Exchange Board of India Act in 1992 where the concept of independent directors came in.
So although the law was passed by the
Parliament, it created a class of independent directors who were not beholden
to the government for their day to day work. And I would also like to highlight
here they were not beholden to the government even for their finances. So they
were allowed to raise their own levies and through those levies they could be
financially independent.
This meant an important way in which the government exercises control over agency, by allocating finance to them was done away with. Just as these independent regulators came in, the practice was repeated in all the subsequent IRDA, CCI etc Acts. The laws were passed by the Parliament but there was now a separate independent authority. Of course the chairman of that authority was appointed by the government.
Now I come to the question of accountability in the new framework, because here are a set of people operating away from the government and yet they frame laws and those laws affect the rights of you and me, for example. If there is something happening, if some mishap is taking place in the securities market, I lose my money, where do I go? The regulator can pass orders against any individual or any company and you know the powers are very, very serious. Sebi is one of the most powerful regulators in the world today.
They can pass what is called the cease
and desist orders. They can pass several other types of order too. Another
thing to be noted here is that in our Constitution there is a separation of
executive power, judicial power and legislative powers.
But these new generation regulators had
all three of them combined in this, even today. So prima facie it will appear
to you who are students of law that this is in violation of the constitution.
How is it possible? But that is a fact.
And there are multiple examples where
this matter has been taken to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court has held
that because of the sensitivity of the matter that they are dealing with, this
separation will not apply and they will exercise all the three powers. So Sebi
has, as I said earlier, regulation making power which is called subordinate
legislation. They also have executive powers. They also have policing powers.
They can investigate a matter. And they of course have quasi-judicial powers
and the chairman and the member of the Sebi can pass orders which are
enforceable.
In fact, based on their orders people
have been penalized for as high as 25 crore rupees or they have been barred
from practicing in the securities market for a period of 10 years or more. So
imagine what serious powers they have. So coming to accountability, yet the law
provides that they are not accountable to the government of the day.
This is again a concept which we have to understand and appreciate. Because if the regulator is accountable to the government of the day, then day to day political developments will start affecting its working. So there is a conscious decision that they are not accountable to the government of the day.
So the question is who are they
accountable to? Number one, they are accountable to their board which has
outside members. Secondly, they are also accountable to Parliament. And the
mechanism through which it happens is that there is a committee of subordinate
legislation of the parliament.
And all the regulations which are framed by the regulator have to be presented before this. And within six months, the parliamentary committee on subordinate legislation can decide whether this regulation is right or wrong or it needs to be amended. They have that power.
Unfortunately, friends, not a single
regulation has ever been studied by the parliament, not only with regard to
Sebi, but by anybody. So this is a very serious lacunae in our country. While
the government of the day doesn't have a direct power, the Parliament through
its committees is also not exercising the power.
So one or two ways in which the
governments try to control or hold the regulator accountable is through the
power of making appointments. So the appointment making powers are there. I'll
give you a very interesting case.
The rules framed under SEBI provide that the chairman of SEBI, for example, can be appointed for a period up to five years. The word is up to. So you can appoint him for one year also.
It is as per the law. It's not a
violation. So the system which has now become prevalent for the last 15, 20
years, that is they are appointed only for a period of three years.
So the word in the notification is that
the appointment will be initially for up to a period of three years. Of course,
if it is found that there is nothing against that person and he can be given an
extension, then he is given a five year term.
The second way the government exercises control over these regulators is through the mechanism of vigilance. You know, the government has several vigilance authorities like CBI or the ED. If a complaint emerges, then the vigilance agencies start working. And of course, the committee of the parliament, the standing committee of finance and all, they can summon the regulator.
In the past, whenever there has been a crisis, as you might have heard a joint parliamentary committee is set up. So they can summon the authorities and they can do this. Here I will take you to some recent developments in the USA.
The USA also follows almost the same
thing. But in practice, it is very different. For example, recently, the
president of the United States has passed what is called an executive order
saying that no regulation can be passed by any of the regulators unless they
are approved by us.
So if the SEC in the USA wants to frame
any regulation, the draft will go to the White House. Similarly, the US
Government has passed an order saying the case for cryptocurrencies needs to be
reconsidered. In the process the earlier regulator Gary Gensler was asked to
go. A new person, Paul Altman, has come. In India, by the way, that does not
happen. With a change of government, you do not change the RBI governor or
change the SEBI chairman. But there it happens.
And the first decision he has taken as
the new chairman is that cryptocurrency, which Gary Gensler felt were very
risky assets and they cannot be held to be securities, he has allowed that to
be done. And some of you might be aware that even a very close family member of
the president has himself floated a new crypto asset. So these are the changes
which are happening there.
There are many other areas on which we
can talk subject to your interest. For example, we can talk about how insider
trading is prevented, how manipulation and fraudulent practices in the market
are controlled. What does SEBI do about corporate governance? What is happening
in the area of ESG? What is happening in the area of ensuring that the
corporate boards in India have diversity, not only gender diversity, but other
diversities.
But I'll stop here and I'll wait for your questions because I don't know exactly which particular area you would like to study in depth or hear from me in depth. So I'm stopping here. Please feel free to ask questions.
Q&A:
Q: Mr. Sinha, the first question I have for you is that in 2014, SEBI
floated a discussion paper that effectively banned equity crowdfunding. I
believe this was during your time. Could you take us through the thought
process as to why equity crowdfunding was effectively banned and it remains
prohibited even today?
Ans: The
correct sequence of developments was the following. Without anybody asking for
it, SEBI floated a discussion paper to allow crowdfunding in the country.
Around the same time, there were several reports about crowdfunding in the debt
market in China leading to a serious crisis. I'm not aware whether you are
aware that there were mishaps involving about $200 billion in China. And one of
the things which happened there was that the providers of that platform, which
were providing that crowdfunding, were floating on the sidelines their own
fictitious companies.
And those companies didn't exist, but people did the crowdfunding hoping that they had come onto such a valuable platform, and they will get their money back. Another experience and feedback which SEBI got was that nowhere in the world has crowdfunding in equity markets succeeded.
What has succeeded is crowdfunding for a social cause or to some extent for debt market. So the advisory committee of SEBI then decided and recommended to SEBI board that it's too premature in the country to go towards that route, so that was not allowed. However, what was allowed was that in alternate investment funds, AIFs, if there are investors who are coming through what is called the accredited investor route, then they should be allowed.
So that was provided. So in short, my
response is that floating that paper and also not taking it forward was a
conscious decision in the best interest. Can SEBI review it? Yes, of course
SEBI can review it, but personally I feel the time has not yet come.
Q: Just a follow up to that question. So having gone through some of the orders that SEBI has passed and also those passed by the Registrar of Companies, you don't impose a penalty on the platform which facilitated crowdfunding. It is understandable that crowdfunding is not something that SEBI wants to take up, but then why aren't the platforms being penalized if they are facilitating something that's illegal?
Ans:They should
be penalized because number one, under what law or regulation are these
platforms running. I'll take you back to what is called the collective
investment schemes or unauthorized money collections and this used to be very
rampant around 2011–14. There is a very famous case, I am sure all of you have
heard of, where SEBI had to take the strictest possible action. This was the
Sahara case. Now by the way SEBI has a regulation called collective investment
schemes regulation. We had to go through a laborious process of investigation
followed by court cases before the company could be made to cough up its
proceeds.
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